Post (that never posted) over at Cross Examined dot org

from Dr. Frank Tureks' Cross Examined blog site:

//...the rings in a tree stump give you information, a decaying corpse can tell you all sorts of things. An intelligent mind is not needed to create this information, and yet the information is still ‘actual’.//

God created the tree (and the mind of the man who invented the chainsaw, allowing the unscrupulous "scientifical politicist" to intentionally misrepresent its neatly exposed rings) and, the now decaying corpse of, the human being. Having set in motion all creation, it only follows that His intelligent mind is behind every process His creation goes through, even if its "only" to the extent that he gave our minds free will to obey or disobey Him. His eternal nature points up that fact so, given this reality, the above does not include information free of an intelligent mind. Far from it. From start: "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." John 1:1 - To finish: (Jesus speaking) "Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away." Mark 13:31

As to infinity, it appears as though some are trying to fit Him into their idea of what that means. We can only understand it in the abstract so, how can one claim that He disobeys the laws of His own making? Why can't He be infinitely small, for instance, if it suits his purpose(s) at any given moment? Or infinitely absent? Or moving? Diverse? Invisible? Present? (Jesus speaking, "...My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness...." 2nd Cor. 12:9 "Blessed are the poor {broken/contrite} in spirit : for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.") In Jesus dwelt, "the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col.2:9) and yet He struggled with His flesh and went to the Cross like a lamb! The lamb of God! Why? Could it be that He is infinitely humble? What the nonbeliever is saying is, in essence, "If God is infinite, He must -according to my finite ability to understand infinity- act ONLY in accordance to what (I comprehend) infinity allows for." Its all about context. If you were right in your assumption(s) of what infinity is then, yeah, God would adhere to THAT reality but, I don't think a finite being can know the true meaning of the great "I am" so who are we to presume what "constrains" Him? The pharisees held themselves above Him, and that is why they took up stones against Him: "Because... being a man (He made of Himself) God." John 10:33

Don't ask me, or any other human, what means forever. That may be the crux of it: literal atheists won't believe in anything they won't see and believe that, eventually, ALL things can/will be discerned while theists accept that what is readily apparent to the mind, being endowed with a spark of His divine spirit, is sufficient for this life "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." 1st Tim. 3:16 And we are happy for it, not indignant at the very notion that we might not be privy to all knowledge of His creation.
That is why we worship Him and not it.

Look at it this way: "For God so loved Tim, that He gave His only begotten..." When the truth in that statement hits you flush in your heart, you will fall in love and spend the rest of your life seeking His will. May God bless you and touch your heart with His love divine.